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#461
I am not able to identify these stamps in my catalogue. I guess they belong to the Japanese occupation of China. Please help.

Posted by Davide Bertinotti on 26 Sep 00

ANSWERS:

#461 - The original stamp was issued by Manchuria (man-chu-kuo in japanese), the design was without nations title, because Manchukuo had not been recognized by chinese postal authorities during WWII. Thus, an orchid emblem was placed at top as the token of nation. The postage like these were served for the connection fees between Manchuria and inland China. After WWII, some of these postage were sucharged with four chinese characters chu-hua-min-kuo (the Republic of China) as shown on #461, the font types were checked out over 25 kinds, usually been distinguished by each major cities of Manchuria.
Shau Chen (24 Oct 00)



#462
I am not able to identify these stamps in my catalogue. I guess they belong to the Japanese occupation of China. Please help.

Posted by Davide Bertinotti on 26 Sep 00

ANSWERS:

#462 - This is from a communist issue for the North China People's Post, issued between 1st April 1949 and 26th July 1949. The original Nationalist issues for North-Eastern Provinces were overprinted "People's Postal Service North China" by the Jinghua Press, Peking. The stamp illustrated is from a set of 17 values and was issued 13th June 1949. (Gibbons NC300)
Ron McKean (03 Oct 00)



#463
I am not able to identify these stamps in my catalogue. I guess they belong to the Japanese occupation of China. Please help.

Posted by Davide Bertinotti on 26 Sep 00

ANSWERS:

#463 - This is a communist issue for Central China, province of Hubei, issued 4th May 1949. The original Nationalist issues were overprinted by the Fuxing Printing Company, Hankou. The early printings, consisting of 7 values, had thin bars at the foot of the overprint. The later printings, 9 values, had thick bars. The stamp illustrated is from these later thick bar printings. (Gibbons CC53)
Ron McKean (03 Oct 00)



#464
I am not able to identify these stamps in my catalogue. I guess they belong to the Japanese occupation of China. Please help.

Posted by Davide Bertinotti on 26 Sep 00

ANSWERS:

#464 - This is a communist issue for East China, province of Jiangsu, issued 4th May 1949. The original Nationalist issues were overprinted by the Postal and Savings Remittance Book Press, Nanjing. This is the second of two values. (Gibbons EC406)
Ron McKean (03 Oct 00)



#465 A-B-C-D
I have recently found your web site and I consider it to be the best philatelic resource I have ever seen on the web. I have been through your listing of unidentified stamps and have recognized many that have been bothering me for some time. I am now down to a handful of stamps that still remain a mystery to me and I would like to submit them:
I have identified numerous Chinese overprints in the catalogue, but these have totally confounded me.

Posted by Ron McKean on 26 Sep 00

ANSWERS:

These are all Nationalist China wartime Postal Savings stamps, 1943. These seem to have been produced at first as Postal Savings stamps to encourage thrift and fight inflation, but due to inflation there was little acceptance of them by the populace. They then became a compulsory savings program when one bought luxuries like liquor or cigarettes. The stamps could be collected and turned in to banks and post offices for a savings bond. But due to inflation the savings bonds were worthless, thus this can be considered a revenue stamp dressed in postal savings stamps/bonds clothing. (There had been true postal savings stamps through the 1930's and early 1940's, first and second issues). If cancelled it would be a philatelic favor cancel. They have also never been seen on a piece of luxury item, so were evidently sold separately in some proportion to the purchase. "The low denominations and lack of odd denominations seem to support this theory" (from "The Wartime Postal Savings stamps of 1943").
Stamp A is a Postal Savings stamp 1943 for Kwangtung province, the four characters (Chu, Chieh, Chin, Chien) roughly translate as "Thrift-National Reconstruction Savings".
Stamp B is a Postal Savings stamp for Kiangsi province, 1943.
Stamp C is a Postal Savings stamp for Fukien province, the extra surcharge at bottom for 30¢ (over 10¢), 1943.
Stamp D is for Kansu, #6. It is rarer than the others, 1943.
It is said that the true use of these stamps may be the theory, not much is known, they were turbulent times...
Paul Luchter (05 Oct 00)



#466 A-B-C-D-E-F
Stanley Gibbons mentions that the Japanese puppet government in Manchukuo issued some 3600 overprints, apparently for propaganda purposes. Are these representative of these overprints?

Posted by Ron McKean on 26 Sep 00

ANSWERS:

#466 - As it was happened at #461, japanese pull back all postal staff and facilities from Manchuria just after the end of WWII, but they didn't destroy the print-ready stamps. When chinese postal staff checked in, they utilized these stamps as postage, still the original design (full of propaganda) were too irritating for the chinese authorities. So they use a bigger font, trying to cover up the design, such as, don-bai-zhan-um (temporary usage at Northeast China), chu-hua-min-kuo (the Republic of China), chu-hua-ju-zhan (China postal service), gzn-um (military postage), zhan-zuo-wu-gzao (served as 50 cents).
Shau Chen (24 Oct 00)



#467 A-B-C-D
I think these are most likely revenues.

Posted by Ron McKean on 26 Sep 00

ANSWERS:

#467 A/B - While looking up the above issues I have found the answer to one of my own questions. These two stamps are a communist issue for East China, Shandong province. They were issued between September and December 1945, and come from a set of 8 values. They exist both perforate 10 and imperforate. (Gibbons EC42 & EC44)
Ron McKean (03 Oct 00)

#467C: Republic of China. General revenue in the Fu Shing Gate design, issued in 1945/47, after WWII. There are several types in design, also a special issue for the NE provinces with additional chinese scripts.
#467D: Republic of China. General revenue in the agriculture design, Gold Yuan currency, issued in 1948. It's curious because the lowest value of 1 cent (here shown) exists only rouletted, all the other stamps only perforated.
Rolf Kirchberg (13 Dec 00)



#468
Extra Dienst Maderaner Thal? Can anyone identify this?

Posted by Theo Stoevenbelt on 03 Oct 00

ANSWERS:

This stamp was issued for a hotel in Switzerland probably in 1884. The hotel was called "Hotel zum Schwizer Alpenclub" and it was situated in "Maderaner Tal". These stamps were issued for hotels which were too far away from normal postal agencies to frank their letters. Zumstein #21, price 35 swiss Francs.
Manuel Praest (16 Oct 00)

I have just seen one of these in the Vancouver stamp show, in a display of world locals. The information with it was as follows: "This hotel, in a valley running east from Amsteg to Oberalp, charged a fee of 5 rappen for forwarding letters to the nearest post office at Amsteg. The fee was charged on letters from some time before 1870. The stamp was suppressed in 1882."
David Heppell (30 Oct 00)



#469
Commission Retourbriefe Bamberg? Can anyone identify this?

Posted by Theo Stoevenbelt on 03 Oct 00

ANSWERS:

This stamp is a Return stamp for undelivarable mail from Bayern and is mentioned in the Michel German specialised catalogue. Date of issue is 1865 and they were mostly stuck on the back of the undeliverable letter. They are known from Augsburg, Bamberg, München, Nürnberg, Speyer and Würzburg. All are printed in black on a white paper.
Leo Bakx (05 Oct 00)

This stamp is a "retourmarken", an official seal, for Bavaria (Bayern), 1865. Listed in Michel Germany Specialized catalog, #2 for/from Bamberg.
Paul Luchter (05 Oct 00)



#470
Here is a stamp all in Hebrew letters. All I know is one line says Tangier. Otherwise I have no idea what this was, when it was issued, et cetera.

Posted by Paul Luchter on 03 Oct 00

ANSWERS:

I believe it is a judicial revenue stamp based on the scales. Maybe you can find it in an Israelian revenue stamp catalogue or French Colonies from Donald Duston.
Oscar van der Vliet (07 Dec 00)

#470: stamp of a curious Jewish Court from Tangier, Morocco. The whole story is given in Donald Duston's catalogue of French Colonies revenues, 2nd edition, July 2000.
Click here for the scanned page for Jewish Court Fee issue for Tangier from Duston's catalogue (110 Kb)
Rolf Kirchberg (13 Dec 00)


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